Michael: Hello everyone and welcome to the HaBO Village podcast. I'm Michael Redman.
Kathryn: And I'm Kathryn Redman.
Michael: And this podcast is dedicated to all of you who own businesses or are in leadership in small and medium sized businesses because we want to help you build what we call passion and provision companies, companies where you're full of profit and full of purpose, where you have profit, purpose, and legacy and you're killing it and you're enjoying it because-
Kathryn: And you're excited today.
Michael: I'm super excited.
Kathryn: Super excited. Why are you excited today?
Michael: Because today is our 100th episode.
Kathryn: 100th episode.
Michael: We made it to 100.
Kathryn: We've made it to 100.
Michael: I remember when I was like 12 and we started this podcast and I dreamed of coming to 100 episodes. It was going to be amazing.
Kathryn: When you were 12.
Michael: When I was 12.
Kathryn: That's awesome.
Michael: And somebody said, "Michael, what are you dreaming about today?" And I said, "I'm dreaming about my 100th podcast episode."
Kathryn: Long before there was such a thing as podcasts. Lots of podcasts.
Michael: And they went like they always did, "Michael, we don't know what you're talking about."
Kathryn: Yeah, exactly. That is awesome.
Michael: I was a kid, I was a visionary. I was a kid born before my time.
Kathryn: You were.
Michael: There was probably no time for me to be born.
Kathryn: Before we got on the air, though, we did laugh a little about the fact that it's taken probably three or four years because we took a break when we were podcasting.
Michael: Yes. Yes.
Kathryn: But we do feel a little bit akin to the tortoise and the hare. We are super excited because you know what? We might be a little bit tortoise-like, but we are going to make it. We are pressing through, we are building stuff, we are making a difference, dog gone it.
Michael: Our goal is to be role, well maybe not role models, but at least examples of what it looks like to lean into something, and when life throws you curves, to keep figuring out how to come back and come back to the course.
Kathryn: And move forward, yeah.
Michael: Because that's what running a small business is all about. There's tons of curves that come from all over different places. You got to troubleshoot, you got to persevere, you got to have grit, grit.
Kathryn: You got to have grit.
Michael: Got to have grit.
Michael: Okay. So today we're going to talk, we're going to have some fun today. And I know last week we did some stories, last episode. And we were kind of talking and well, we started talking about the audio book and then took a left turn and went down la la land. But today, okay, so if you've been with our podcast before, you've heard us do some interviews. And in every interview we do, at the end of the interview we ask our guests 10 questions. So those questions are really kind of important and kind of special to us, especially to me because I heard them for episode on top of the episode of this show on Bravo called Inside the Actor's Studio. And at the end, he asked all these actors and people who are in the film industry what these 10 questions that are from a French reporter who was quite well known called Perot, I think is what his name was. And he asked everybody these questions and he won a bunch of awards and everything else. And the only picture we have of him on Wikipedia is a black and white. It looks like he's from the '50s or something like that, '50s, '60s before color was invented.
Michael: Anyway, we're going to interview each other because we never answer these ourself. And we're going to start with Kathryn. Kathryn, are you ready? Welcome to the show, Kathryn.
Kathryn: Thank you. I'm so happy to be here, Michael.
Michael: We've been waiting a long time for you to come to this show, 100th episode.
Kathryn: Well, you know, I'm busy. I'm very popular.
Michael: You know what? It was really hard to get you scheduled.
Kathryn: I've got a lot going on. There's a lot of people who want me on their podcast.
Michael: Some people call you a prima donna, but I don't. And I just want to say thank you and our guests are going to be really excited today to hear from you.
Kathryn: Okay, super excited.
Michael: So here's what we're going to do. I'm going to ask these questions. She doesn't know they're from the Actor's Studio. And they're from the Actor's Studio and we're going to talk about them. And it turns out that this French reporter asked them and he always asked him, he was famous for asking them.
Kathryn: I've heard that.
Michael: And so we're going to ... You have?
Kathryn: I have.
Kathryn: I've listened to your podcast.
Michael: That means the world to me. Thank you. Okay, so what we're going to do is I'm going to ask you these 10 questions one at a time and we're going to talk and we're just going to what comes to mind. Okay?
Kathryn: Okay, I'm ready.
Michael: All right. Now Kathryn's never heard these questions before. Have you, Kathryn?
Kathryn: Oh, never.
Michael: Okay. All right.
Kathryn: These are all fresh to me. I haven't given them any thought.
Michael: Okay. The first question is what is your favorite word?
Kathryn: Numpty. You knew that was coming, didn't you?
Michael: All of a sudden I'm like, "Oh, she has a new ..." So how often-
Kathryn: It's not new.
Michael: Kathryn, how often do you get favorite words?
Kathryn: Oh, probably about once every 18 months when I visit my brother.
Michael: Yeah. Well, you know what? That didn't come from your brother.
Kathryn: It didn't. It came from just British television.
Michael: We were watching British television.
Kathryn: In a pub.
Michael: Yeah, we were watching TV in-
Kathryn: It was a commercial.
Michael: Yeah. It might've even been in the flat we were in.
Kathryn: Many of you know that I'm actually originated from the UK. So if you don't, I was originated in the UK. I think if I was submitting this for voice editing, they'd make me say that word three times because that didn't work. Anyway, yes.
Michael: What you're saying is you're British.
Kathryn: I'm British.
Michael: And you were born in England.
Kathryn: I was born in England. So we go back and visit my mom and-
Michael: She's still a US citizen.
Kathryn: No, I'm still a British citizen.
Michael: I mean a British citizen.
Kathryn: Never been a US citizen.
Michael: She doesn't want to become a US citizen.
Kathryn: No. So there are all ... You will see British things come up in my world and numpty is one of those words. It's just such a great way to just say, "Ya silly man. Ya numpty." What a great way to say it. That was a numpty move. Oh, he's a numpty. So yes. So we have adopted that word in our household. It comes out a lot. We say it here. But yes, numpty definitely my favorite word.
Michael: Yep, definitely. All right. What is your least favorite word?
Michael: Hate. Okay. Hate. Why did you choose that word?
Kathryn: I think because it's such a strong word and I don't like it. I hate hate. I just hate hatred, hate. I just, yeah, that kind of venom, yeah, I'm not ... It would be like hate, vitriol, those kinds of words. I just-
Kathryn: Vitriol, yes.
Michael: That's a big word for today.
Kathryn: I know, right? Well, this is a big interview for me.
Kathryn: I'm going big.
Michael: This is going to make or break your career.
Kathryn: Absolutely. I'm going to look back on this and go, "That was the day."
Kathryn: This is an awkward question between a husband and a wife.
Michael: Number three. So Kathryn, what turns you on?
Kathryn: Oh, that's just awkward. So let's just keep it PG. I am going to say that what very much-
Michael: I think I'm blushing.
Kathryn: I am blushing too. I think what very much excites me is when people experience breakthrough.
Michael: Ah, yeah.
Kathryn: So when you just see the light go on in someone's eyes and all of a sudden they were having a realization. We just had this yesterday with a client that we were working with and you said a few things and there was just this realization for him of, "I have never let myself go there because of this issue." It was business counseling. But it was just beautiful to watch and he got a little misty and I love that. That just excites me at the core like, "Oh my gosh, we're making progress." So really love that. Love that.
Michael: Sweet. What turns you off?
Kathryn: Yeah. Just people who just don't care. Complacency and the idea that I think I have a high value on growth and on wanting to always be thinking about, "Okay, how do I get better?" Especially for me in my internal world. So when people are just complacent about their journey and their own personal self awareness, that makes me sad. I don't like that.
Michael: Yeah, good. All right. No, not good. That's sad. Number five. What sound do you love?
Michael: Laughter. Oh, you like laughter a lot.
Kathryn: I do. I love laughter.
Michael: We laugh a lot in our world. Yeah, we laugh a lot.
Kathryn: Yeah, we do. And I love making people laugh.
Michael: Yes, you do. You have a wicked sense of humor.
Kathryn: It is. Yes.
Michael: You're very proud of it.
Kathryn: I'm quite proud of it. It's one of my favorite qualities about myself. I like making myself laugh, as it turns out.
Michael: We both can do that very well. Yes. We both make ourselves laugh. Well, what sound do you hate?
Kathryn: Anything repetitive.
Michael: Oh gosh, totally.
Kathryn: Like a rattle.
Michael: I'm not agreeing with her. I'm just like-
Kathryn: A rattle in the car, a dog barking that won't stop, a bird in a tree that just won't shut up.
Michael: It drives you crazy.
Kathryn: Anything repetitive, anything. Especially if I can't make it stop. It just makes me freaking nuts. I can do a clock, I don't mind a clock. But yeah.
Michael: Folks, I'm telling you. You just stepped into the pain of my life right there because as much as she hates it when she gets cranky about these things, it drives me crazy.
Kathryn: Like his convertible BMW, our 2003 convertible BMW, has some really significant rattles that just are like ...
Michael: You don't always hear them though.
Kathryn: No. And if the tops down, you don't hear them at all.
Michael: Yeah, which is good.
Kathryn: Anyway, yes. Repetitive noises. Anything repetitive makes me cray cray.
Michael: All right. What is your favorite curse word?
Kathryn: Shite. Because it doesn't sound like a curse word, so I can say it with great glee and be like, "Oh, shite."
Michael: You're just getting off on that. Yeah.
Kathryn: And it's stronger than daft, daft, which is my other go-to.
Michael: I love daft.
Kathryn: I love daft.
Michael: What profession other than yours would you like to attempt? Because we know you have passion and provision in your job.
Kathryn: Right. There's nothing else I'd rather do then be here with you. Okay. This is a dangerous question to be asking. What profession other than yours? That's a hard one.
Michael: See folks, she didn't know these were coming. She's stumped.
Kathryn: Okay. I think I have two completely different responses to this.
Michael: Okay. You get to use both.
Kathryn: Okay. The first is kind of funny. The first is I think I want to be a really well known preacher. Like one of those women that gets called to come do conferences and preferably not just for women because that makes me a little crazy too.
Michael: See that's the challenge, right there.
Kathryn: Yeah, it is. Which is why I'm probably never going to-
Michael: Most of the ones that are really well known women preachers-
Kathryn: They preach to women.
Michael: Most of them. Not all of them.
Kathryn: I know.
Michael: Heidi Baker doesn't.
Kathryn: I know, that's true. So, okay. Probably going too deep into that one. But that would be ... I mean, it would just be fun to do that because I love speaking and I really love preaching because that's a sweet spot for me. And then the other profession I think I would really love would be if I just could be talented enough to be some sort of an adventure guide.
Kathryn: I know, right? Anything, if I could try anything.
Michael: Okay, sure. Yeah. Okay.
Kathryn: Someone who sherpas people through dangerous territory.
Kathryn: Yeah. That could be cool if I knew what I was doing.
Michael: Well, yeah. You get to do that.
Kathryn: I get to be ... Okay.
Michael: You get to know what you're doing in this.
Kathryn: I get to know what I'm doing? Yeah.
Michael: I never thought about ... I never heard you even talk about that.
Kathryn: I don't know if I ever have, but here we are.
Michael: How fun is that?
Kathryn: Even if it was skydiving, like a sky diving instructor, just something where you're-
Michael: 27 years in, folks. I'm learning new stuff.
Kathryn: You're just helping people do really crazy, exciting things.
Michael: Okay. All right. That's good. What profession would you not like to do?
Kathryn: Elementary school teacher.
Michael: Ah, why not?
Kathryn: Because I am not very good at engaging children creatively. I want them to be grownups in how they think when we're talking. So as Jenna has gotten older, the older she gets, the happier I am because I feel like I can engage. Obviously she's in her 20s now, so we're kind of past it. But some people just love little kids. And I went to school thinking I wanted to be a teacher. And I wanted to be a teacher until the first time that they brought children in. And then I was like, "Oh no. Oh no, no." And it's not that I don't love children, but I can't. Other people's children are amazing, but just teaching them, I just cannot. I just don't know how to teach them. You know? What do you do?
Michael: Folks, you're hearing the maternal instinct come out in her now.
Kathryn: Very, very strong. It's the only reason I don't get to talk to women in large crowds. Okay.
Michael: Yeah, there's a special tribe of women, some of you listening right now, you know who you are.
Kathryn: You don't feel like you fit. You know who you are.
Michael: Okay. If heaven exists, and we believe it does, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the pearly gates?
Kathryn: You did the work that I called you to do and you loved people well. I want to hear those two things. I did what I was called to do and I loved people well. That would be very rewarding to hear.
Michael: Yeah, I like that a lot.
Kathryn: And all the stuff that you screwed up I'm going to let go because I'm Jesus and that's what I did.
Michael: He just burns it. It just burns up. This is like, "Whoosh, we're going to wipe that away, all the stuff that was oopses."
Kathryn: Yeah, because there's many of those.
Michael: We just get to keep the gold. I never thought about it like that. It's the oopses get taken away.
Kathryn: The oopses get taken away.
Kathryn: So there you are. That's me.
Michael: That's awesome. We know you so much better now. Okay folks, I'm just curious. I mean, obviously you can't respond at the moment, but I'm just curious, which if, how many of those, think about this, how many of those were a surprise to you? And how many of them were like, "Yeah, that makes perfect sense for Kathryn." Whether you know her personally or whether you know her because you listened to us for 100 episodes, because I know there's one of you out there that has listened to all 100 episodes.
Kathryn: At least one of you. Somewhere in there. Well, Steve. Okay, fair. Steve, what shocked you?
Michael: Although he came along when we were at about 20 so I don't know if he listened to the first-
Kathryn: He may not have gone back. All right, so it is time to turn the tables in this little adventure that we are on and I am going to guide you through this adventure. See, I'm going to get to do one of my jobs.
Michael: This is kind of fun.
Kathryn: So Michael, welcome to the podcast.
Michael: Thank you so much.
Kathryn: It is a pleasure to have you.
Michael: I have been so looking forward to being here and having a time with you personally.
Kathryn: I'm so glad. Our listeners have been longing to hear your voice because it's been so long.
Michael: That's so nice of you to say.
Kathryn: Absolutely. Yeah.
Michael: Well, hello listeners. Thank you for having me today. Okay.
Kathryn: All right. So are you ready for the ten questions?
Michael: I'm ready. Blue.
Kathryn: Nope. Unless that's the color that you don't like, the word that-
Kathryn: Okay, stop talking until I ask you a question. Are you ready?
Kathryn: What is your favorite word, Michael?
Michael: I was thinking that was a trick question.
Kathryn: Oh my goodness. What is your favorite word?
Michael: Okay, so I really intentionally didn't think much about these ahead of time, so I-
Kathryn: Well, you've never seen them before so how could you have?
Michael: Right, I've never seen them before. These are tough questions. Fulfilled. That's cheating. No.
Kathryn: I just mouthed the name of our book to him.
Michael: They heard you whisper.
Michael: I think they heard it. My favorite word would be faith or hope. No.
Kathryn: Pick one.
Michael: No, I think dream.
Michael: I think dream.
Kathryn: Okay, are you sure? All right. Final answer. Do you need to phone a friend?
Michael: Okay. Yes. Final answer. Dream.
Kathryn: Dream. Good. Tell me why.
Michael: I love making stuff and taking something from nothing to something. I love that. And there were things I used to think I wasn't any good at it. And then I realized looking back on when we did the timeline exercise that I'm actually had been doing it my entire life. I've been kind of making things up, whether it's a cardboard fort or whatever, I've been imagining things. But the dream part is like I am imagining what could be.
Kathryn: Being on a podcast that's 100 episodes old when there's no such thing as a podcast?
Michael: Right, yes, exactly.
Kathryn: I dreamt of this day.
Michael: What could be. And I mean, to me, I love to do a lot of stuff and I love to experience a lot of stuff and I love laughing and smiling and I love greeting people and I love kindness, but-
Kathryn: But dream.
Michael: But yeah, my favorite speech is Martin Luther King's speech. That's my favorite speech. My second favorite speech is ... I feel like I'm going after the really big ones, but my second favorite speech, I actually have books on these two speeches, is the Gettysburg Address. Actually, the Gettysburg Address fits in a text because it's so short, but I have a book or two about it because they're both about imagining what could be that isn't yet. And it's a dream.
Kathryn: Number two.
Kathryn: None of our guests ever have that lengthy of an answer. Just saying. Okay.
Michael: You know what? They're on the spot. They feel like, "I can't answer this long."
Kathryn: I hope that our guests listen to this one so that they know that they can explain. Okay. Number two. What is your least favorite word?
Michael: Probably stupid.
Kathryn: Okay. Stupid is as stupid does.
Michael: I don't like stupid a lot. I mean, it might not be my least favorite word, but it's down there on the bottom of the list. I don't like it when people get called stupid. It's funny because the least favorite thing that I ... The least favorite word that I have isn't really a word, it's like silent words, a silent word that I don't know what the word is, but it comes with the attitude or look that's condescending. Maybe that's my least favorite word is condescending.
Kathryn: You got to work your way into these things, don't you?
Michael: I've decided that that's my ... I haven't said that's my final answer. That's my final answer, condescending. I hate condescending. Hate it. It's awful. It's horrible. When that attitude comes along, people are saying something without using words. And whatever they say, whatever that thing is that has no word that we say is condescending, but it's uglier than condescending, that's what I hate.
Kathryn: Okay. Wow.
Michael: My least favorite word, the silent word behind condescending. My final answer.
Kathryn: Thank you. Number three. Pretend I'm not your wife and answer the question with a straight face. What turns you on?
Michael: What really excites me and lights me up is an engaging conversation with people who actually have curiosity and a conversation that's full of curiosity and with somebody who's engaged with you talking about things. And curiosity combined with somebody who wants to grow, people who want to improve and everything else. Yeah. That turns me on.
Kathryn: Curiosity. All right.
Kathryn: On the flip side-
Michael: People who just bitch.
Michael: I got that one.
Kathryn: Question unasked yet answered.
Michael: I'm realizing that ... Okay. I'm sorry.
Kathryn: What turns you off, Michael?
Michael: People who bitch. Because what I like most is an engaging conversation filled with curiosity with an attitude of, "I want to learn, I want to grow." From people who really do want to learn and really want to grow. And what turns me off is just people who just, A, they're kind of like the opposite of that. They don't want to grow, they don't want to change. They want to complain about everything. Right? And I go off on this all the time, right? Folks, I tease her a little bit because periodically she complains about the government in the United States but she doesn't want to become a United States citizen and do anything thing about it.
Kathryn: Oh, you went there, didn't you? You went there.
Michael: I did go there.
Michael: Well, solidarity with Americans. Red, white, and blue. Yankee doodle. We won at the Boston Tea Party.
Kathryn: I'm not bitter. Okay. Moving on. What sound do you love besides the splashing of tea in the water?
Michael: I liked your answer. Children laughing or laughter.
Kathryn: Yeah, just laughter.
Michael: I love laughter.
Kathryn: I like grown ups laughing too.
Michael: I love laughter.
Kathryn: Because as we've established ...
Michael: I love laughter.
Kathryn: I think baby laughter's the best, actually.
Michael: But you know what I think ... Okay, this is the first thing that came to mind. The sound of you and Jenna. I love being around you guys and I just enjoy it so much. But maybe I would say the sound of your laughter. I mean, I love laughter, but my favorite is when you two are laughing.
Kathryn: Nice. I'll take it.
Michael: Yeah. I'm not saying that just to kiss up, folks. I really do like it, it's really awesome.
Kathryn: Yeah, sure. Okay. What sound do you hate?
Michael: The sound of a complaining woman. I'd rather live in the corner of an attic than the sound of a complaining woman. No, that's just what I thought about. That was funny. The sound that I hate is nagging. I really do. I really do hate nagging. That sound of nagging.
Kathryn: So this morning when I was like, "You will be putting the blinds up before we leave."
Michael: That wasn't nagging. No, that wasn't nagging. That was annoying, but that wasn't nagging.
Kathryn: It had only been a week. I'm patient, honest.
Michael: She took them down and she wouldn't put them back up. So yeah, nagging. Because I can think of multiple things all the way through my generations nagging. Oh, nagging. The earliest nagging. Now, I love my wife and I love my mom. But my earliest nagging was mom. My mom, okay, I'm going to paint a picture for you, tell the story, right? I got to do this. That's okay. So mom will never listen to the podcast because mom doesn't know what a podcast is nor could she find it.
Kathryn: That is so true. I'm going to play it for her in the car when we're driving somewhere.
Michael: Oh, that'd be funny. Mom had this habit. So my mother gets up at like 4:00 in the morning and we don't, we never have ever. Well, that's not true. We've forcibly done it to go skiing. But other than that-
Kathryn: Or catching our plane.
Michael: All right. But if we have a choice, we don't do it. So anyway, growing up, mom would say, "Hey, you've got to get up, got to get up, got to get up." In my teen years, my mother started lying to me about what time it was. She would literally lie.
Kathryn: That makes me laugh so hard.
Michael: It would be like 6:30 in the morning. "It's 7:30. You're going to be late for school." And she did it so often. And first of all, I had a clock by my bed. Why would I do this? And then she would walk into my room and flip the switch and turn the light on. I finally took the light bulb out of the light at the top of that switch. I just totally stopped that switch from working and just used lamps in my room so my mom wouldn't turn on the light. But she would just nag about getting out of ... Go, "Michael, Michael, Michael."
Kathryn: And it never worked because you never grew into an early riser.
Michael: Well, and I was a challenging child and she assumed that if she repetitive ... Attacked me, not attacked me. She reminded me-
Kathryn: Often enough.
Michael: Repetitively, that I would respond and change.
Kathryn: You didn't.
Michael: She finally figured that out sometime after we got married.
Kathryn: There you go.
Michael: And I think she figured it out.
Kathryn: We'll see.
Michael: And my mother's awesome.
Kathryn: She is awesome. What's your favorite curse word?
Michael: Okay, I have a couple.
Kathryn: Sure, I did.
Michael: So one that I use all the time is dagnabbit.
Michael: I mean, I love that word. It just rolls-
Kathryn: It's kind of like three words. Dagnabbit.
Michael: It's a phrase. Well, my other ones more than one word too.
Kathryn: Okay. What's your favorite curse phrase?
Michael: Curse phrase. Dagnabbit.
Kathryn: Dagnabbit, you numpty.
Michael: Dagnabbit. And then I like daft a lot but I don't think daft's a curse word.
Kathryn: Well, it isn't. But neither is dagnabbit.
Michael: Dagnabbit is a curse word. Dagnabbit.
Michael: Yeah. But the other one's a real bad curse word.
Kathryn: Okay. What is it?
Michael: But it's Gaelic. It's my favorite. Really, it is my favorite one to say.
Kathryn: [crosstalk 00:25:22] getting away with it.
Michael: But it is foul and I ill not give the interpretation on this podcast because I will be embarrassed. And I try not to say this even in my vocabulary. Okay, so my favorite curse word is pogue mahone.
Kathryn: And we're going to just leave it at that.
Michael: I mean, folks, right? I'm going to say it again. Pogue mahone. I mean, oh, pogue mahone. I mean, doesn't that just ... It just rolls off your tongue. Pogue mahone.
Kathryn: Okay. You need to not be training them to use it because it is foul and I don't like it when you use it because I do know what it means. So, okay. I'm sorry. I've never reprimanded a guest. I apologize. I have a stake in this one.
Michael: Well, it was a curse word and I thought I'd be real and I'd be very vulnerable and honest and share something. I thought it was a safe place to share, really, on this podcast.
Kathryn: I'm so sorry, it's not.
Michael: I heard rumors that this was a safe place.
Kathryn: Not for you. Maybe for other people, not for you. Number-
Michael: You rabid [inaudible 00:26:17].
Kathryn: That was my favorite curse ever, but that's a whole nother story. Number eight. What profession other than yours would you like to attempt?
Michael: I would like to be a Naval jet fighter pilot.
Kathryn: Yes, you would.
Michael: I totally would. That would be so awesome.
Kathryn: Top Gun thing going on.
Michael: Oh my gosh. That would be mock whatever with your hair on fire.
Kathryn: What would your call sign be?
Michael: Oh, I never thought about that.
Kathryn: Added question.
Michael: I never thought about that.
Kathryn: Red rider?
Michael: What would be ... I don't know. What do you think? I mean, I'm not even sure. Do you get to choose your own?
Kathryn: Oh, Maverick goose, red rider. I think you'd be red rider.
Michael: Red rider? I don't want to be named after a wagon. What kind of a fighter pilot name is that? Maverick and Goose, I need you to come alongside and be a wing man to red rider. Make sure that handle's down. Yep. I think he's going to fall off the wagon.
Kathryn: Okay. Moving on.
Michael: Especially a fighter pilot falling off the wagon. You know how many jokes there are? You have a beer and all of a sudden there he is falling off the wagon again. Red rider. No, I can't have red rider.
Kathryn: Okay. Then we'll work on that and get back to all y'all.
Kathryn: All right. What profession would you most like not to do?
Michael: I wouldn't want to do anything in sanitations, but I think probably anything that's boring and repetitive would kill me, boring and repetitive.
Kathryn: And there's a lot of choices there.
Michael: That's a whole field. If I had to pick one-
Kathryn: There's a whole field.
Michael: There's a whole field of boring and repetitive. That are suited for other people, I am not suited for them at all, they would be-
Kathryn: So you don't want to work in an auto parts factory where you're doing the same thing on a, yeah, on a line?
Michael: Or doing wrapping chocolates like-
Kathryn: In this I Love Lucy skit. Yeah, I wouldn't like that either.
Michael: Or counseling. Oh, that would be awful. Business counseling, the way we do it, coaching, that's great. Counseling or coaching people who don't really want to change and grow. I know that sounds weird. Maybe some people are like, "Why would somebody go to a counselor or a coach if they didn't want to grow?" Oh, you have no idea. Oh my God.
Kathryn: Talk to some of your friends, your counselor friends. They'll tell you.
Michael: It's like I just couldn't hack it. All right, there we go. How's that?
Kathryn: Good, that was great.
Michael: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kathryn: So anything boring or being a counselor.
Michael: Anything repetitive.
Kathryn: Repetitive and boring.
Michael: And boring, and boring. Boring just felt like it was too broad.
Michael: Boring and repetitive.
Kathryn: Fair. If heaven exists and you actually get to go ...
Michael: Which we believe it exists.
Kathryn: It doesn't read that way. If heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the pearly gates?
Michael: Oh, so I would just ... I want to hear ... I loved your answer. I think it's great. You did what I called you to do. But here's how I'd like to hear it. Right? If I could choose right now, "Michael, bomb diggity. Dude, you killed it. Get in here and party like it's 1999." That's what I want to hear.
Kathryn: That is a strong answer.
Michael: I mean, I could just ... Jesus coming along and, "High five! And yeah!"
Kathryn: That's awesome.
Kathryn: That may be the best answer I've ever heard. As you have with the questions.
Michael: Yes ma'am.
Kathryn: Yay! Good job, baby!
Michael: Yeah, we did it.
Kathryn: Oh my goodness. That was a lot of fun.
Michael: Okay, well, we're 36 minutes into this podcast.
Kathryn: So we need to wrap this sucker up.
Michael: Most people probably want to go to whatever they want to go to.
Kathryn: I don't blame them.
Michael: Hey, thank you so much for listening to our podcast and joining us for the 100th episode.
Kathryn: Hopefully you felt a little bit like we just got to celebrate today because that was a part of it. We just kind of wanted to celebrate by just having some fun and just kind of being who we are, which you got a lot of that, maybe more than you expected.
Michael: If this is your first episode-
Kathryn: It's not always like this.
Michael: It's not always like this.
Kathryn: No, sometimes we're serious and we actually talk about really important stuff.
Michael: And if you liked this episode a lot, you might be disappointed with the rest of them.
Kathryn: That's not true. We still laugh. Okay.
Michael: So just as we land and wrap this, thank you so much. Thank you for helping us continue to talk about one of our most favorite subjects in the world and that is work that is rewarding both financially and personally and emotionally.
Kathryn: Passion and provision, baby.
Michael: And we love passion and provision and we believe that work should be like that. And we believe that for all of our friends, of all of our comrade in arms that have started a business, running a business, or thinking about starting a business, this is a brave territory that you're moving into, a brave field, or have. And there are plenty of things that happen that not everybody understands. And we want to be a place that actually allows you to dream bigger for what could be in your business, not just financially, but for what could it mean for you, your impact, and leaving a legacy.
Michael: And we want to do everything we can to coach, encourage, inspire, and train you if at all possible. Because we know it's possible. We know it's possible because we've done it. And so if you would just help us spread that word and hit that inspire button, hit that subscribe button.
Kathryn: Hit that subscribe button because you're inspired.
Michael: And subscribe to our podcast and tell other people about it if this has meant anything to you or you like it. And please join us on future episodes as we continue to dive into the world, the murky, crazy world of passion and provision. I'm Michael Redman.
Kathryn: I'm Kathryn Redman.
Michael: Have an awesome week. Bye-bye.